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Cohabitation in Belgium - Part II

16/4/2014

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One year and three months after our first visit to the town hall, I rode my bike there for what I hope was the last time.

April 7th, the day I first arrived in Belgium (in 2011) was the day I picked up my shiny, green id card. There’s some symbolism there.

One year and three months, a denied application, a lawyer, hundreds of euros, two orange cards, a lot of back-and-forth and a lot of tears later, the Kingdom of Belgium decided to welcome me as a legal citizen. No more uncertainty and anxiety (related to that, at least). We can now relax and move on with our lives.

Looking back, off course we could have done some things differently – like hiring a lawyer. But at the time we didn’t know better and it was the best we could do when I got a letter saying I should leave the country in thirty days. We could have married from the beginning. I could have waited a bit longer in Brazil. We could… we could... What’s the use of looking back, anyway? It’s all good now and we did our best with what we knew.

Since I wrote Cohabitation in Belgium I got a lot of messages and met a few people. I said it then and I’m not tired of repeating: you must be patient. Yes, bureaucracy sucks, but it has to be done. Yes, the requirements seem ridiculous, but it’s their way of making sure you’re a legit couple. Yes, the waiting period is long and stupid and kinda puts your life on hold, but there are plenty of things to keep you busy (like learning Dutch or French).

On one hand, I believe that everyone should have the right to live anywhere in the world they want, as long as they work, learn the local language and be part of the community. It shouldn’t be so difficult, frustrating and tiring. Many times I felt it wasn’t fair that I just wanted to be with someone I love, get a job and live my life but they were giving us such a hard time.

On the other hand, I do understand that the government has to have a system for letting people stay or not. But it’s screaming for change. There is definitely something wrong with the way immigration, integration, welfare, work and education is happening. But I’m not going to pull this thread now.

I’m going tell you two things: 1.What have I learned from this? 2. What now?

The most important lesson for me was that things don’t always happen the way you want, when you want. I admit that I like control. I like planning. I like knowing. I like being the boss of my own life. So you can imagine how a year of waiting and not knowing freaked me out.

I have been unemployed all this time (check out The Stay-at-Home Expatriate) and we lived with his family for a year. Picture this: I was a 27 year-old woman who started working at the age of 19 and always took care of herself, now living with her boyfriend’s parents. I haven’t lived with my own parents for a year straight since I changed high schools (it was in another town). It was weird and many times I didn’t know how to behave. I tend to care too much about what people think of me and I need more quiet than most.

But it was amazing too. I became part of a family. I got to know them and understand them. I was supported and loved. We had structure and comfort. I will never thank them enough for all they did for us in this tough beginning.

Last year I read a lot, wrote a lot, networked and learned about blogging, entrepreneurship and personal development (Recommended: Leonie Dawson, Marie Forleo, Ash Ambridge). I also learned some Dutch and decided to take my writing more seriously. It was a good year in terms of reflecting and learning, but I’m happy it’s over. I’m happy we’re moving on.

So, what now?

I’m still not clear about what I want to do here because it all depends so much on what I can do. My Dutch is not fluent enough for me to apply for most vacancies I see; language schools won’t hire me as an English teacher because I’m not a native-speaker (total bs); I’ve never taught Portuguese in my life and the demand here isn’t that high. I had a look into becoming self-employed but that scares me to hell (taxes, quarterly social contributions, etc).

So I’m still a bit stuck work-wise, but I know I’ll figure it out.

I just finished Dutch level 3 and will start level 4 in the end of the month. My next step after we are registered in Ghent is to take the Integration course. I hope that by September I can start a professionalizing course or actually find a job.

Otherwise I better finish that novel I’m writing and start selling! ;) 


xo,
Ana

23 Comments
Cíntia Pumes
16/4/2014 11:34:41 am

Estou tão tão contente por ti! Mas ao mesmo tempo, ai, em pensar que ainda todo esse processo me espera... Wish me luck!
E quando eu chegar na Bélgica vamos fazer uma pequena comemoração para vocês, ok?

Beijinhos xx

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Ana Elisa Miranda
17/4/2014 02:00:49 am

Fique tranquila, tenho certeza que vcs vão tirar de letra o período de espera. Assim que chegar, marcamos um encontro! Beijo :)

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Kenya link
16/4/2014 11:48:55 am

Fico feliz em ler seu relato. Vocês tiveram dores de cabeça e eu senti no seu texto o alívio disso tudo. Me identifico muito com a situação que passou no que se referiu a não ser dependente, trabalhar desde cedo, morar com uma família que nos adota. Me lembro bem que antes de vir pra cá e de vc escrever o coabitação I, você me deu dicas e tranquilizou meu coração. Vc disse exatamente o que colocou no texto: tenha paciência e tudo dará certo. Eu já estava decidida a vir, mas no Brasil surgem tantas dúvidas que ao ler isso foi como reafirmar uma certeza que já tinha. Obrigada por ser tão solícita. Eu também quero fazer o meu relato pq antes de vir pra cá as questões burocráticas foram as que mais me deram dor de cabeça. Facilitar ao máximo a trajetória de quem vai mudar a vida, isso que senti cada vez que recebia uma resposta negativa ou totalmente desencontrada com a realidade. E tenho certeza que no curso do inburgering você vai achar o seu nicho de mercado aqui. Daqui pra frente só abrirão oportunidades pra você. Que continue assim. Beijos

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Ana Elisa Miranda
17/4/2014 02:03:45 am

Oi Kênya! Obrigada pelo comentário :)
Eu tb acho que ao compartilhar nossas experiências ajudamos quem está na mesma situação. Ler um relato e entrar em contato com quem já percorreu o caminho pode fazer toda diferença. Quando escrever o seu, por favor me envie! Beijo!

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Natalia Treviño
14/5/2014 08:59:43 pm

Hello! My name is Natalia, from Mexico. I'm planning to move to Belgium this July and start with the process with my belgian bf. I hope everything goes fine, I'm positive on that and willing to go through the sucky process. My question is, during the process I can not travel to Mexico, right? If I want to come home for Christmas, is it possible to leave Belgium during the process? Many thanks!

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Ana Elisa Miranda
15/5/2014 01:47:17 am

Hi Natalia,
As far as I know, you can't go in and out of Belgium when you have your temporary card (the orange card).
Good luck on the process and if you have other questions, let me know.

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jane souza
16/8/2014 03:57:36 pm

Oi Ana Elisa, acabei encontrando o seu blog pesquisando sobre cohabitação. Tenho um namorado que mora na Bélgica e queria muito que vc me esclarecesse alguns detalhes que ainda tenho dúvidas. como poderíamos proceder? email? facebook?whatsapp?
agradeço imensamente!!!

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Ana Elisa Miranda
17/8/2014 04:33:36 am

Oi Jane,
Me manda um email: anaelisasm@gmail.com

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Flavianne
2/9/2014 03:41:06 pm

Ai,ai...Me vejo nos seus relatos.Moro em Melsele.Cheguei há um ano e estou na corrida por documentos.Detalhe:A funcionária da prefeitura de Beveren tentou nos enganar com falsas informações,mas estudei,conheço leis e não caí na conversa.Status:Desempregada e SEM NENHUMA AMIGA!!!Mudança drástica pra quem tinha tantas amizades.Aprendendo a língua devagar...Porque me cansa.Não é um idioma prazeroso como o inglês,mas é preciso.Ter um namorado belga demanda isso tudo.Que Deus nos ajude!Alguém pode me indicar uma atividade em uma instituição?Me sinto tão sozinha...

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Ana Elisa Miranda
3/9/2014 08:52:34 am

Oi Flavianne. É uma situação frustrante e às vezes desesperadora né? Mas não perca o foco, aproveite a oportunidade para aprender e crescer, que tudo melhora com o tempo.

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Vanessa
30/10/2014 07:11:46 am

I am in the same situation as you were - just been refused the permanent visa but on different grounds. I'm wondering why you say that you should not have hired a lawyer. Also, am I able to simply recommence a new application process immediately. Thanks for your help. It's a great article and very helpful to people in this situation.

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Ana Elisa Miranda
30/10/2014 07:55:13 am

Hi Vanessa,

I am not sure if anything changed since we did it, but we were allowed to file an appeal of the decision and at the same time apply for the residence permit again. We hired a lawyer because we were desperate and didn't know how to proceed, but if you know what to do, a lawyer is not necessary.

Good luck!

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Molly
26/11/2014 12:12:43 pm

Hi Ana! Congratulations on your visa and your patience. I have a question about your lodging. You mentioned you were living with your boyfriend's family for the duration of your waiting period and I was hoping you could elaborate a bit more on that. How did you show this as proof of sufficient lodging?

My boyfriend and I are in the midst of applying and if possible, we'd like to save money and live with his family instead of straining our budget and signing a lease. Do you have any advice?

And just to clarify, you waited to apply for your visa until you arrived in Belgium, right? Thanks, and congrats again!

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Ana Elisa Miranda
26/11/2014 01:19:03 pm

Hi Molly,

Yes, I started the process as soon as I arrived back in Belgium.

About lodging, my boyfriend's official address was always his parents'. The commune just asked us for a copy of the house document (proof of ownership) and a letter signed by his parents saying that they welcomed me to live with them.
I don't know if anything changed since or if it varies according to town. Good luck!

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David link
4/12/2014 04:41:49 am

Hi Ana, I thank God for you and you must be a highly patient person. I'm in the same situation, my case was refused for the reason that we haven't fulfilled the required waiting period before applying for the F card. We made an appeal and I had bijlage 35. This was also refused for the same reason. At the moment we've completed the waiting time, we re-applied, but they didn't give me another orange card like the first application neither was I allowed to sign an application form again. They just took copies of my documents and told me I've to wait for the outcome from Brussels. At the moment I've nothing to identify myself even in case of control. What must I do ?. .Please reply me.

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Ana Elisa Miranda
6/1/2015 05:34:51 am

Hi David,

When I was in-between applications I carried a letter with me (the one that said I had 30 days to leave the country or appeal).

Keep checking in with your city hall and good luck!

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Linc
8/5/2017 11:35:56 pm

Hi David,

What happend in your case am moving to Belgium to start the process.

hope your well

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Savina
29/5/2015 11:13:05 pm

Hello, I read that you are/were living with your boyfriend's parents. I am in the process of acquiring the legal documents necessary for a cohabitation visa too. However, my bf lives with his parents and our plan was to live with them when I get there to save for our own apartment/house. However, I am wondering how you and your boyfriend told that in your application (proof of sufficient lodging).
Kind regards,
Savina

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Binyamin Green
8/1/2016 11:28:36 am

Hey! thanx for all the great information,
how is it possible to apply for a visa from my home country if we can only declare legal cohabitaion if we live together in belgium? *weve been living together in Israel for a year and know each other for 2..

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Ana Elisa Miranda
8/1/2016 12:56:13 pm

Hi!
I think you can apply at the Belgian Embassy in your country. You don't have to be living together in Belgium. Good luck!

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Susi
18/11/2016 01:54:26 am

Beste Ana
Please help me to find a good lawyer that can help us to re-apply .Now i just only have 2 weeks left to stay here in Antwerpen. My problem in the stad huis is cannot showed a healthy insurance. And please inform me about an insurance company here that can process sooner as possible.Tx

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Thais
14/2/2018 12:36:44 am

Ola, Ana
Obrigada por partilhar sua experiencia no blog. estou para entrar com o pedido de coabitação e estou cheia de duvidas e um pouco preocupada em falhar por falta disso ou daquilo, típicos de burocracia. ja li casos mais rapidos, que em tres meses as pessoas já tinham finalizado o processo. e agora o seu caso, cheio de nuances. gostaria de poder tirar mais duvidas com voce, se possivel. muito grata, thais

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Ana Elisa
15/2/2018 01:53:23 pm

Oi Thaís, me escreva no Facebook (grupo ou página).

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